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Ageism can look like a blanket refusal, under in any situation where Clarke and Abby are at odds, to grant that Abby might have a point, even when the narrative is clearly telling us that Clarke is the character at fault. The tendency within this fandom for young girls who closely identify with Clarke to graft their own mom frustrations onto Abby is virtually never-ending, and it can be hard to sift through the the complex intersection of ageism and misogyny that makes it impossible for them not to see mothers as human beings who are interesting, who are wise, who are right, who know things their children do not, who are sexual, who are allowed to make mistakes, who deserve screen time and plot agency, who are just as vital to the story as the teenagers...

Ageism can look like a blanket refusal, under in any situation where Clarke and Abby are at odds, to grant that Abby might have a point, even when the narrative is clearly telling us that Clarke is the character at fault. The tendency within this fandom for young girls who closely identify with Clarke to graft their own mom frustrations onto Abby is virtually never-ending, and it can be hard to sift through the the complex intersection of ageism and misogyny that makes it impossible for them not to see mothers as human beings who are interesting, who are wise, who are right, who know things their children do not, who are sexual, who are allowed to make mistakes, who deserve screen time and plot agency, who are just as vital to the story as the teenagers...

Ageism can look like a fan who ships all the non-canon ships … except Doctor Mechanic, because it’s “gross” and “Abby is basically her mom.”  The inherent desexualization of age-difference relationships is often rooted in ageism.  You don’t have to ship it!  But if you insist that no one should ship it, then there may be some ageism in the roots of your ship-shaming.<ref>[http://kane-and-griffin.tumblr.com/post/164960658961/hey-so-i-know-that-youre-the-most-famous-person I have a lot of thoughts, some of which may not be the thoughts you were hoping that I would have]</ref>}}

Ageism can look like a fan who ships all the non-canon ships … except Doctor Mechanic, because it’s “gross” and “Abby is basically her mom.”  The inherent desexualization of age-difference relationships is often rooted in ageism.  You don’t have to ship it!  But if you insist that no one should ship it, then there may be some ageism in the roots of your ship-shaming.<ref name=abby>[http://kane-and-griffin.tumblr.com/post/164960658961/hey-so-i-know-that-youre-the-most-famous-person I have a lot of thoughts, some of which may not be the thoughts you were hoping that I would have]</ref>}}

Accusations of ageism is also often associated with [[The Walking Dead]] fandom's treatment of the character [[Carol Peletier]],<ref>[http://carolageismandsexismposts.tumblr.com/ CAROL HATE: AGEISM, SEXISM, VICTIM-BLAMING]</ref> forum user Doctor grimes summarizes:

Accusations of ageism is also often associated with [[The Walking Dead]] fandom's treatment of the character [[Carol Peletier]],<ref>[http://carolageismandsexismposts.tumblr.com/ CAROL HATE: AGEISM, SEXISM, VICTIM-BLAMING]</ref> forum user Doctor grimes summarizes:

{{quotation|Saying ageist things about Carol is not only hateful and disrespectful to Melissa McBride (undoubtedly one of the greatest actresses of all time) it’s awful to the many women who watch the show and champion Carol. Sometimes I watch the show with my Mom (a domestic abuse survivor who is Carol’s age) and I see the happiness it brings her to see a character that reminds her of herself who is such a force of nature. Representation matters, and when you diss a character like Carol for trivial shit like her (lovely) gray hair, you’re attempting to invalidate what she represents based on age alone. She represents survivors. She is strong and capable. She is beautiful and desirable.<ref>[http://jeleha.tumblr.com/post/157487191051/saying-ageist-things-about-carol-is-not-only Saying ageist things about Carol is not only hateful and disrespectful to Melissa McBride]</ref>}}

{{quotation|Saying ageist things about Carol is not only hateful and disrespectful to Melissa McBride (undoubtedly one of the greatest actresses of all time) it’s awful to the many women who watch the show and champion Carol. Sometimes I watch the show with my Mom (a domestic abuse survivor who is Carol’s age) and I see the happiness it brings her to see a character that reminds her of herself who is such a force of nature. Representation matters, and when you diss a character like Carol for trivial shit like her (lovely) gray hair, you’re attempting to invalidate what she represents based on age alone. She represents survivors. She is strong and capable. She is beautiful and desirable.<ref>[http://jeleha.tumblr.com/post/157487191051/saying-ageist-things-about-carol-is-not-only Saying ageist things about Carol is not only hateful and disrespectful to Melissa McBride]</ref>}}

Author K. Ancrum points out that ageism against male [[POC]] characters is also seen within fandoms, she uses the character of [[Luke Garroway]] form [[Shadowhunters]] as an example:

Author K. Ancrum points out that ageism against male [[POC]] characters is also seen within fandoms, using characters played by [[Samuel L. Jackson]] as an example:

{{quotation2|Another one is Luke Garroway from the Shadowhunters, played by Isaiah Mustafa (43). Have you seen Isaiah? Yeah, I know. And yet, he is also seen almost as some “grandpa” figure of the group. Often people use his age as an excuse of excluding him from most fanon activities involving the main group of characters – shipping, group fanvids, group edits etc.<ref>[http://kancrum.com/post/165480905514/racialized-ageism-and-fandom RACIALIZED AGEISM AND FANDOM]</ref>}}

{{quotation2|Samuel L. Jackson has prominent roles in numerous popular franchises, that have big presence in fandoms with rich shipping content – Star Wars, MCU, Kingsman… Yet, his characters are always left out of the shipping pool in these fandoms – Mace Windu is ignored; Nick Fury is seen as the “dad” figure of the avengers; and Valentine is seen as nothing more than a funny villain, even though, fandoms do love white male villains.<ref name=poc />}}

Fandom hatred, and ageist behaviors, towards older characters may occur more frequently in youth oriented fandoms.

Fandom hatred, and ageist behaviors, towards older characters may occur more frequently in youth oriented fandoms.

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