FictionHunt
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Name: | FictionHunt |
Date(s): | 2013?-present |
Archivist: | archivariuss |
Founder: | |
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Fandom: | Multiple fandoms (with a focus on Harry Potter) |
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FictionHunt is a archive website that claims to back up stories posted to FanFiction.net. The main focus seems to be on Harry Potter stories. It serves primarily as a searchable index with links back to the story on FanFiction.net. Like some index sites, they also offer a reposted "cached" version of the story as well should FF.net go offline or if the story is deleted. This last point has become a point of dispute within fandom.
The site owner explained his goals in a long Reddit thread (see below): he noted that given that FF.net did not allow mass private messaging and that most FF.net authors did not list email addresses on their profiles, it was technically impossible for him to contact each author in advance. Several users complimented him on the search feature which they felt was an improvement over FF.net's search.[1] Additional feedback prompted him to link first to the story on FF.net and then use the cached version as a backup. After several fans protested, the site owner added a note saying that he would remove the cached versions of the stories upon author request.
Further Reading
(arranged in chronological order)
Oct 2013
"I couldn't find it in AO3(where I usually read it) and fanfiction.net but I found it here [fanfictionhunt.com]"[2]
Nov 2013
"Oh I just found it online as well at [fictionhunt.com] I'm so glad because I loved this fic and I was really sad when my link was broken :( "[3]
April 2014
[reader fan to an author at AO3]:"Hi, I found on fictionhunt.com your Harry Potter fic: The Presently Past Reading the Books. And I was wondering when you will be updating it???"[4]
June 2014
"Has anybody re-read MothGypsy’s fic recently, or has it really disappeared from ff.net and AO3???
- I found it on fictionhunt com!"[5]
July 2014
- Actually, scratch that ("....can someone explain what fictionhunt is...) dated July 16, 2014
- Thanks to everyone who checked fiction hunt for me.. (" it does link back to me as the author, so I’m not too worried. ] dated July 16, 2014
The August 2014 Reddit Thread
(link)
On August 27, 2014, the FictionHunt archivists posted about his site at reddit.com. The following is a series of excerpts from the debate
Topic post:
"Good news everybody... Scratch that, it's not good news.Hello, i'm the person who is running fanfiction archive fictionhunt.com - completely automatic system that was created in order to preserve stories that were originally posted to FFN, but were removed by its administration for various reasons. To do that it picks all of the available stories and simply stores them "just in case". It has a very visible link to the original author and a link to the original story. So, no ill intentions here whatsoever. Innocent database that doesn't hide who's the author and doesn't make any money off of any works.
Now, I've received several emails from authors requesting removal of their works, saying that somehow I had to contact every author personally and ask for their permission. Which is not only unreasonable (there're thousands of authors), but simply technically impossible since authors don't have emails or any other form of communication available to the simple robot.
What's your opinion? Should i stand by the original idea and preserve stories no matter what or should i comply with author's wishes?
UPDATE: Since posting, I've made number of changes to FH and one noticeable is that story primary link is pointing to the original location on FFN. So please, visit FH before you write your comment.
UPDATE2: Website is down for now. We are moving to the other location.
UPDATE3: So, website is running again. I've discussed a number of features with couple of users, so that'll be following. Stay tuned. Current email is unavailable, so don't write there. I won't receive anything."
Suggestions on structuring the links and the sites goals:
[someorangegirl]:
"I think there's a disconnect here--I don't think people going to your site understand what your site's intentions are. It's not clear anywhere that you made it to archive deleted stories, which I think you need to say somewhere. Authors who find their stories on your site may be understandably upset that your site is taking away traffic from their story on FF.net (and thus reviews and follows, etc). Your link to the FF.net story isn't clear; I completely missed that little greyed (FF) and would have no idea it was a link, let alone a link to the FF.net story unless you mentioned it. If the link to the FF.net story were the main link and your archive were greyed and clearly labeled as "fictionhunt archive" it would clear up a lot of confusion. But even so, I think plenty of authors are uncomfortable with their stories being hosted on sites that they did not personally post on. Mirrors and archives are usually only trouble no matter the intentions, diverting traffic from the original source and inconveniencing authors who no longer want their stories online (sure there's always an archive somewhere, but at least no one so easily accessible). You should handle individual requests of authors the very least--you shouldn't host their content if they don't want you to. It'd be disrespectful and only discourage people from posting creative works online."[6]
[bickymonster]:
"Perhaps I could suggest that if the site is truly intended as a "backup" version, in case things are lost, that you might switch the links around. This way the primary link, when they click on the story title, would take them straight to the ff.net website, where we have hosted our stories, and can communicate with our readers. Then you can put your backup link, your secondary copy that is supposed to be there just in case ff.net take stories down, as just that, a secondary link to the work, just where the FFN link is at the moment."[7]
[flupo42]:
"As a reader: thank you for your work. Don't see anything wrong with you making backups, authorized or unauthorized of fanfiction.Especially since you took the step of making first link head to original source so as not to siphon off traffic.
edit. In light of current wave of anger directed at you, perhaps you could circumvent it a bit by not hosting a browsable link of the backup directly for the fics that authors refused to be hosted at your site.
Instead allow users to input a "friendly request" through a small automatic form for an archived fic from your "personal backup" which is than automatically shared to the email address that your new "friend" provided in the request form.
People share stories from their personal backup collections by request all the time like this."[8]
Suggestions on contacting each author individually
[bickymonster]:
"I have also said that i understand that it would be impossible for a robot to [contact each author by PM or email], and so yes, i would expect you to contact the authors individually. I do understand that this is a mammoth task, and probably a large part of why no one has created an archive like this before. I understand that this is not going to be an easy fix and yes I do get that you don't add the stories manually, but in the case of getting permission, it isn't something that you can refuse to do because it is difficult or inconvenient. I do not believe that I am being unreasonable, and nor do the other authors. And I would like to point out that we have been talking a lot, and yet, still, not once, have you asked for permission to host our stories."[9]
[Wintercearig]:
"It's practically impossible to contact everyone and entirely unfeasible. Some people delete a story for personal reasons though, and may not wish for it to be 'out there' anymore, in any form. If those people contact you and ask for stuff to be taken down, then you should do it. It's their work, after all.Could you not post information on the site just to say that it's an automated system and if an author asks you to take their work down, you will do so?
Other than that, I think your scoop system is actually a pretty good idea. I had been hoping to find the ever-elusive, deleted excentrykemuse fics on there, but regretfully they aren't there... Real shame, that. I've been after copies for ages.
Edit: on reflection, it's not unfeasible to contact everyone. An automatic PM system could be implemented.[10]
Discussion of the Petition:
[bickymonster]:
Yes, I do mind. Because while these actions you are taking are great, and are appreciated, I do not think we have dealt with the core issue here, which is that you haven't made any attempts to ask for permission. Until that is addressed, the petition will remain. (my suggestion would be that you actually remove the archive links for the stories until you have permission from the authors, which I am aware is a time consuming job that would have to be done almost one at a time, but you have your archive, and that isn't going anywhere. Therefore you have the time now to ask permission properly, before you host stories online without the permission of their authors.)"
A Few Authors positive reactions:
[LeLapinBlanc]:
"As an author, I was pissed off at first. But if your primary link points to FFn which is the only place I post my fics to, well, okay not as pissed off although I would have liked to learn about this in another way than a random reddit post."[11]
[flame7926]:
" Yes, I am an author, and I am encouraging him to have copies of stories that he can give out if the stories can't be found anywhere else and the author can't be contacted anymore....I've gotta admit you have a good search engine, and the character footprint thingy is kinda cool. I would have asked you to take my stories down if you were taking traffic away from FFn though, to be honest. "[12]
[Iwritestories1 ]:
"i write my stories for the enjoyment of others and myself, i don't see the problem with my stories being shared around and enjoyed. If fictionhunt is acknowledging that this is an archive, and he's not plagiarizing, than i really don't see what the problem is. it's impossible to ask personally for each author's permission and in my own honest opinion, the stories are being enjoyed and better yet saved.heck, should something ever happen to the stories i write i would like knowing there was an archive keeping the words i wrote safe.
I write these stories for free, for the enjoyment of myself and others, and really, in the end of the day knowing someone has read my work just makes me happy, call me simple i guess
i know my opinion isn't popular, but that's how i feel, especially since it seems he is trying to fix the site."[13]
[grace644]:
"It's hard not to be upset when you realize something was done with your work without your knowledge. I upload to ff.net because I like certain things about the site, so to find out that my fic was uploaded to another without my knowledge or permission of course gets me upset. I want to know where my fic is at. I want to know how it is doing on a daily basis with traffic. I could upload to other fanfic sites, but I choose not to. I felt like this took away my choice. Was that your intention? No, clearly it was not and I can see that now, but that's how you made me feel and I believe that is how you are making others at this moment feel. If I had not been a redditor I wouldn't have known my fic was uploaded to FH. And that upset me. So it automatically puts you and many authors on the wrong foot. BUT my beta talked me down. He thinks this is a "valuable service" and we discussed your site more."[14]
On the use (and abuse) of DMCA notices to remove fanfiction:
[MystycalOne]:
"Just report the damned site here and file DMCA takedowns with them. That's a legal and binding [email address for] his webhost..... It's called a pirate site as he's stolen everything on it. Yeah, dude, when you take without permission, it's stealing. Pirate sites don't need to make money to be classified as that."[15]
[HecatesKiss]:
"I agree whole heartedly with taintedtash. How DARE you. You have been told by multiple authors to remove our work from your site. I know for a fact that Tash is one of them. And when we sayremove via DMCA we mean it all. Totally. Completely. Absolutely. ENTIRELY. That means no link-back, it must be gone. Completely. As for the person asking about fics? Most of us have had our work STOLEN from fanfiction.net by this... cretin. Mind you, this may create a rash of removals by the writers themselves, because this... this...I don't have a polite word for this. It is OUR work. We post it where we want for a reason.Consider this, all of you. If every author that writes fanfic were to receive a C&D tomorrow, this place, in it's original format would be violating the terms of the C&D, but WE, the writers, wouldn't be able to DO anything about it, because WE did not put our works on his site. That, in part, is why the control of WHERE our work is hosted ultimately lies with the writer."[16]
[servalpur]:
"I've seen various authors using the DMCA to remove their work from public sites, notably Cassandra Clare. I may well be wrong about a court case, and they may have simply been abusing the automated DMCA system on sites like Rapidshare and Dropbox where people used to host her work back when people still used Rapidshare."[17]
[UraniumKnight]:
"Everyone based in the US honors a DMCA takedown notice. The penalties for not complying are stiff for hosting companies. If, for example you had a Youtube channel, I could file a DMCA takedown notice on your wholly owned and self-created content, and Youtube would automatically take it down. The process for countering a fraudulent takedown notice exposes you individually to the person filing the takedown, since your personal information is required to proceed and file a counter-notification. At no point is the takedown filer required to identify themselves. Abusing a poorly weighted and most-probably broken system is not the way to ensure your wishes are followed."[18]
[MystycalOne]:
"You dug your own hole, now you get to climb out of it. There is an old adage we teach our children when growing up; if you don't own it or can't get permission, don't take it. That's where you are. In doing that, you are now invoking the wrath of many. We have every right to demand you contact authors before using works that don't belong to you. It's /not/ going too far for you to do that. Your 'bot be damned. YOU run the bot, so it's YOUR problem. Shoulda' thought of this before you set that bot up, shouldn't you? I'm sure your ISP and webhost will see it that as we're all reporting you there as well. Let's see what they say about what you should do, hm"[19]
[UraniumKnight ]:
"This cuts both ways. Calm your misplaced righteous fury. If people have to contact you to re-host your work, then youhave to contact the rightful owners of each and every intellectual property every time you write anything using something they own!Add to a story? Contact the owner, get permission. Otherwise, you can't publish it.
Write something new? Contact the owner. They say no? Too bad, you can't publish.
What's that, it's too much work, the author is dead, but the work is still owned by their estate, or the copyright is in limbo, and you can't figure out who owns it? Too bad.
That's essentially your tone here. I for one, do not appreciate it.
Also, what're you going to do, go to a lawyer and get them to shut down the Wayback Machine while we're at it? I'm pretty sure you'd be laughed out of a legal office for asserting you own anything based as deeply as fanfiction in someone else's intellectual property. But hey, mob justice is okay right? You get 'em."[20]
On the threat of legal action:
[LeoDrayThanatos ]:
"as long as even one single story is on your site that you have not the author's permission to post there, you will get one complaint after the other!! you have //no// idea what so ever how connected the ff-writers are to each other!! do not underestimate us!! and believe me, if //my// stuff is not off the website (including even a single mentioning of my work or my profile, no matter what) in the next 12 hours, I will go to the police to look what legal actions I can take against you!!"[21]
Even story titles and summaries are infringing:
[LeoDrayThanatos]:
"..the general information such as title or summary are not copyrightable and I don't see why they have to be removed (and they won't be)."
- Story summaries are written by the authors, so they are copyright protected, doesn't matter how brief they are. That is clear and to the point in every published author's contract if they wrote them. As these are fanfics, they wrote them. So, they own them and have the right to tell you to take them down as well."[22]
Readers are selfish children demanding candy
[flame7926]:
"When I put something on the internet, whether it is fanfiction (I have two stories of my own) or something on facebook, original fiction, whatever, I put it on the internet with the understanding that no matter what I do to try to delete it it will be available until the end of time. I thought this was a basic assumption. I guess some people think that you can make things publicly available, like sticking a painting out in the middle of the street, or handing out free copies of a book at a supermarket, and expect to get all the copies back at some point. In my mind, when you make something publicly available, you do so with the understanding that it will be so forever. If someone put their photograph on a website and later tried to take it down, or handed out copies in the street and later tried to get them back I would have no compunctions keeping a copy for private use or downloading a copy of the photograph to keep for myself."[23]
[taintedtash ]:
"It doesn't matter what you want. You're being pathetically childish and selfish. Like a child demanding candy. It's ridiculous. All that needs to be done is drop a message 'hey, I wanna read this again, can I have a copy?' That's it. Easy and frigging pie."[24]
[flame7926]:
"I said I disagree. In this case, I don't care what the authors want. Theft or not is semantics or a legal argument which isn't what I'm arguing. I disagree that they are a bonehead, I think they are doing a good thing. Probably went about it the wrong way, but a good thing. My logic isn't flawed. It is internally consistent. It just disagrees with you."[25]
Why distributing fanfic is different from distributing commercial products:
[archivariuss]:
" FH is completely non profit. It doesn't make any money, it doesn't hide who is the author or where the original story is. Instead of leaving it be, some of the authors jumped on this bandwagon with pitchforks."[26]
[flame7926]:
"It's different if the person then wants to sell it for profit. They probably made a mistake in posting it first but I would comply with their wishes. Distributing it in this instance is denying them money, what they have determined to be fair compensation for their work. I was talking about a photograph that someone removed just because they didn't want others to see it anymore, like people do to fanfiction. In my mind it's two different scenarios because one you are monetarily hurting someone and in the other they just want something."[27]
On coming late to the fanfic party
[Servalpur]:
"I personally took like a 5 year break from fanfiction between 2007 and 2012 (I had been reading since 2000 prior to that), and was really taken aback when I found that Livejournal had pretty much died, and all the old rec lists had stopped being updated. It was a real kick in the pants to find reams and reams of lists with just dead links, and since many of the fics were high quality but not necessarily extremely popular, many of them actually did not have backups online. It's with that reasoning that I can say that I see nothing wrong with archiving fics without asking the authors first (though I think if possible, a good faith effort to at least find an email wouldn't go amiss). That said, if specifically asked to remove the fics from an author who can verify it's actually their work, you're obligated to take it down."[28]
August 2014=
- Fictionhunt.com stealing stories from FanFiction.net without authors or site's permission. Please sign petition to have stories removed from the unauthorised site posted to redditt on August 27, 2014
- Petition:To remove all stories until they are given full permission by each author created Aug 27, 2014 by Pipa D. (UK)
- Publishers vs Libraries dated Aug 28, 2014 (...we decide where it is hosted....we have chosen our publisher(s). That publisher is not you. The books are available at the library, but do not carry your mark on the spine.)
- Petition: Bring Back FictionHunt dated August 30, 2014 by Tiera H. (US)
Jan 2015
[dramioneasks]:
"Not sure how others here feel, but here’s my opinion:Personally, I wouldn’t want someone lifting my stories and posting them anywhere else without my permission (be them in their original English format or in translations that I didn’t authorise), regardless of throwing me the bone of crediting me for writing the story. That’s crossing a line, usurping my wishes and disrespecting my copyright over the material I’ve produced (derivative works, which fanfiction and fanart fall under, are protected under copyright laws, and as J.K. Rowling has given actual consent for fanfiction/fanart to be created from her HP series, that means the derivative work I’ve created from her universe is internationally protected under the Berne Convention). Just because something’s on the internet DOES NOT make it free property.
Also, I don’t know about other authors, but I personally use the stats at Fanfiction.net to determine information about my reading audience, so I can better gauge where they’re coming from, what interests them, and how to target my writing to catch their attention (e.g. which stories they return to over and over, which stories are favourited & by how many people, and which stories get barely a glance are all important factors). If someone takes my stories and moves them without my permission to another site, readers may be redirected to that other site to check them out – and their reading habits on those sites is vital data I will miss and not be able to take into account.
Then there’s the issue of plagiarism. On many other unsecured sites, the text of my stories can be easily lifted and stolen (and then translated & sold off by sneaky, enterprising types who think it’s okay to do this when it’s NOT). Fanfiction.net has a built in code that prevents that from happening from their main site. I really appreciate that as a writer, honestly (and I wish AO3 would incorporate such a thing, too!).
Finally, the stealing of someone else’s work & posting it under your user account (I’m speaking about the *YOU* in general, not specifically you, aerinngwen) smacks of wanting to glory-hog attention for yourself and gain your five seconds of fame. The stories will be posted under the user account of the ‘fan’ who stole the work and all reviews will come to them, regardless of any credit given to the author in some small note on the front page. That’s so “selfie” selfish, it drives me mad thinking about it. How vain do you have to be to pull a stunt like this, really? Don’t do it. Write your own/draw your own stuff if you’re after praise. Seriously.
There’s a reason I’ve purposefully chosen where to house my fics and I would greatly appreciate it if members of the fandom respected my wishes on the matter.
Just my thoughts."[29]
[lotrfansez]:
"While i agree with everything up here, I also think that an exception should be made for fics that are only available on one archive that is about to go down. Nothing sadder than the ‘oh that was only available at X site which went down about a year ago…“ answer."[30]
March 2015
"Someone left a review on FF.net saying that my story was being plagiarised somewhere. I think they put a link in but FF.net is a pain and just deletes links and they have disabled their private messaging.I’ve found a copy on FictionHunt under the pen-name ‘smile.club’ (and have emailed them about it) but if anyone knows anywhere else it has been posted or if the reviewer sees this and could drop the link in my ask box that would be fantastic!
Also, if you are smiles.club or anyone who thinks plagiarism is okay, please just don’t. It’s really not."[31]
July 2015
" OH and just so you know fictionhunt is a great website for fics that were deleted."[32]
August 2015
"Anonymous → YOU GUYSS I HAVE THE LUST POTION BY SMUTGASM SAVED ON MY PHONE IN AN APP! IS IT OKAY TO LIKE COPY PASTE IT AND PUT IT IN A WORD DOC? OR IS THAT ILLEGAL? I FEEL BAD FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WONT GET TO READ IT ANYMORE.There is a copy over on fictionhunt…..so people can read it there if they want…
MONDAY, AUGUST 3, 2015 (1 MONTH AGO) WITH 4 NOTES
- startedlike-what said: It’s not on fictionhunt any more :("[33]
"Every thing I posted is on fictionhunt dot com. Just give a search for "Parody" and "M" and you will find everything I posted. This is my last post regarding a fanfic. Even if I didn't do it in the convensional way, I belive I did my best. You just can thank those that are a little bit narow minded for me not continuing. Thanks for reading..."[34]
- So I just found out about fictionhunt... dated August 13, 2015
- fictionhunt dated Aug 13, 2015 (it seems to be only a redirection?? you click on it and you end up on ffnet, where you posted your stuff.)
- [ ...EDIT: They took mine down straight away dated August 13, 2015
"FictionHunt’s excuse for not asking the author’s permission is that it works as an archive to preserve works that get deleted from FFN, and that as it automatically picks all the stories submitted to FFN, it would be impossible for them to contact every author.Well, you know what, don’t. I appreciate that it redirects you to the FFN work so that you can’t leave reviews there, but if you’re going to create an archive that contains the whole story and you don’t ask for the author’s permission,you are still reposting other people’s works without their knowledge or consent!
Having a say as to where our work is made available would be really nice. Contact the authors, and if they don’t plan on taking down their stories from FFN and don’t want their work reposted, put only the summary, details and link. Otherwise, don’t bother creating an archive."[35]
- Untitled Post About FanfictionHunt dated August 14, 2015 ("http://cocoartistwrites.tumblr.com/post/126662382674/ive-started-a-revolution-im-so-excited)
- My Email To Fiction.net dated August 14 2015
- What is the issue going on with fictionhunt? ("I saw your post but what did they do wrong to instill your wrath?) dated August 14, 2015
- ...who’s the freaking Turnip Head that runs this thing?!? dated August 14, 2015
- I just don’t really get why this is a thing? dated August 2015 ("Like, if you’re going to take the time to essentially download a copy of all these fics from FFnet and other sites, why can’t you take the time to just ask the authors via PM?")
- The sod claims he’s an archive. dated August 14 2015 (" He’s nothing more than a black-market thief for profit. He’s a wankstain and a tosspot.")
- Untitled post dated August 14 2015 ("Alright, roughly 4 hours after sending my cease and desist, fictionhunt.com has put me on their no-archive list and all current and future work will no longer be showing up their. (sic)")
- Untitled post dated August 14 2015 ("Apparently the archived story is replaced by a text apologizing for the author taking it down. The link to FFnet is still there and the fics are still searchable. I am not satisfied. I don’t like the tone this sets and I don’t want any part of this website. According to the back and forth email conversation I had with the “operator” of FictionHunt (who completely ignored my clear and incensed messages about how wrong this is and why) I was told that “We are happy to remove any content of the story that author wishes to, but that does not extend to metadata such as title, summary, characters, number of chapters, wordcount etc. People need to know why this is wrong....” )
- Untitled Post dated August 14 2015 ("I never got an email apologizing and notifying me of the removal of my work, and since it still showed up on the Google search, I thought they hadn’t taken it down yet. But I checked and they did. So apparently I, the author whose work was reposted without my permission or knowledge, am not worthy of an apology, but the users of FictionHunt are. Perhaps my “are you fucking kidding us?” is more offensive than disrespecting fanwork creators?")
- Untitled Post dated August 15 2015 ("I never received an email either from them. I didn’t cuss but I did say I would be informing Fanfiction of their scraping program and didn’t hear back from them, either. Alas, you’d think the creators would have some response? Guess not.")[36]
"FictionHunt doesn’t ask authors for their permission because that is technically impossible. — FictionHunt’s ‘About’ sectionI’ll think you’ll find there are several ways of contacting us through various websites actually
- WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT IN THIS WEBSITE??? #technically impossible yet polite and 100% required y'know?"[37]
- fictionhunt dated August 2015 ("so, I guess I’m gonna send them a mail, too. I have no problem posting my stuff somewhere else than ffnet or AO3 but at least I wanna be asked before that happens. Oh, internet, why do you hate us -.- ")
- fictionhunt dated August 2015 ("I just sent them an email like 10 minutes ago and my stuff is already down. ")
- fictionhunt dated August 2015 ("Sharing for any authors that may be following me. While I love fictionhunt for the stories that may have been purged or removed for copyright (like using one whole song lyric), it isn’t cool that they don’t bother asking. So if your stuff is up and you don’t want it to be, shoot them an email. Us readers being able to find something that may have been removed is NOT more important than an author having control over their work.")[38]
- fictionhunt dated August 2015 ("It is just fanfiction but we do all work so hard and we don’t get paid so a basic level of respect for our work shouldn’t be too much to ask, imo.')
- fictionhunt dated August 2015 ("Aw hell naw. Hell to the naw. They are about to get a rude fucking letter from me. Fuck no.")[39]
"Big thanks to diva-gonzo for giving me the heads up! Honestly at first I thought my story got deleted and legit had a half heart attack. Then I went to the site and thought it was just a search engine thing, referring links to ffnet and was like okay whatever, but THEN I read the about and takedown pages and understood why she was so angry. I had to search for every story I’ve written so I can copy and paste the link so I can email them to take it down. Like, why do I even have to do that?! If that is an option then doesn’t that tell you fuckers that it’s wrong and maybe idk DON’T DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE?? Guys, I am so mad right now."[40]
- fictionhunt dated August 2015 ('""Yeah, this is a lot of extra work to get them to take your fics down, and I wonder if they’ll repost them later, because if they use some method to backup fics from ffnet, I doubt that goes manually. ")
- fictionhunt dated August 2015 ("NO, we should not have to request our work not to be featured in a site we gave no permission to. We should not have to google our penname every day just in case, or find out via other people that our work was reposted, and then have to take the trouble to “request” our work to be taken down. Freaking unbelievable.")
- fictionhunt dated August 2015 ("It’s posted there if you search for your fic via google plus ficiton hunt. Okay, it’s fanfiction and so on. copyright isn’t really there bla bla. still annoying that they just took the fics and posted them there without asking. stupid site.")
"There is a site out on our lovely world wide web called fictionhunt.....Well, today… I found out that our story is being hosted somewhere we didn’t put it.That is called stealing. Theft. Plagiarism. We delibrately post to the sites wechoose for our own reasons. That place is not one of them.
This site does not have either my or my co-writer’s permission to post our work there. Like I said before, that is theft. And that is not okay.
A number of my other wonderful, amazing, brilliant, and witty HP fanfic writers have also had their stories lifted… I am more than certain without their express permission, as I leave an e-mail address public for ANYONE to contact me that reads my work… but I received absolutely no request asking if this fictionhunt could host my work.
I also have spoken with several other writers… and each and every one of us is angry. Yes, this may be fanfiction; however, under US law, we still have some rights, even with a derivative work.
I’ve sent this site a DMCA notice. We shall see if they comply.
Now, part of the reason I started this post, is so that ANY of the other Harry Potter Fanfic writers out there know. Ladies and Gentlemen? Run your stuff through this site. If it comes up and you didn’t grant permission? DMCA Copyright Infringement Notice to the website I mentioned."[41]
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