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And regardless of how cohesive a community fandom is (and I agree with ziofierose, it’s not), the idea of seclusion and self segregation seems like a pretty terrible choice.  Historically speaking, groups that have chosen to seclude themselves, or self-segregate, in order to sort their own shit out have pretty much never managed to do that.  That’s just not how community cohesion and identity works.  When a community does that, what’s far more likely to happen is factions getting expelled from the community to maintain the ‘purity’ of the group identity."<ref>{{source| url = http://penguinsparade.tumblr.com/post/91133965473/i-loved-that-essay-on-the-4th-wall-you-reblogged | title = I loved that essay on the 4th Wall you reblogged... - Penguins on Parade |archiveurl=
 
And regardless of how cohesive a community fandom is (and I agree with ziofierose, it’s not), the idea of seclusion and self segregation seems like a pretty terrible choice.  Historically speaking, groups that have chosen to seclude themselves, or self-segregate, in order to sort their own shit out have pretty much never managed to do that.  That’s just not how community cohesion and identity works.  When a community does that, what’s far more likely to happen is factions getting expelled from the community to maintain the ‘purity’ of the group identity."<ref>{{source| url = http://penguinsparade.tumblr.com/post/91133965473/i-loved-that-essay-on-the-4th-wall-you-reblogged | title = I loved that essay on the 4th Wall you reblogged... - Penguins on Parade |archiveurl=
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{{Quotation|[amezri]: "My problem is less talking about slash around actors and more the asking about slash in order to get validation for their ship. No matter how nice an actor says “it’s not my thing, but go on,” groups will get mad & it starts to feel belligerent.""<ref>comment ledt in {{source| url = http://penguinsparade.tumblr.com/post/91133965473/i-loved-that-essay-on-the-4th-wall-you-reblogged | title = I loved that essay on the 4th Wall you reblogged... - Penguins on Parade |archiveurl=
 
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