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The Fourth Wall (essay by The Winter Otter) (view source)
Revision as of 22:15, 24 December 2014
, 22:15, 24 December 2014→Reactions and Responses: wonderful meta discussion
2) “Fandom” doesn’t exist as an actual entity, and is thus never going to actually sort its shit out. There is no UN of Fandom, there’s no Geneva Convention. There are more and less widely accepted ways of behaving, sure, and working to change those from within is absolutely something we should be doing. But trying to put our fingers in the dike until we can get fandom all shiny and clean before going public is never going to work."<ref>{{source| url = http://zjofierose.tumblr.com/post/91128084587/i-loved-that-essay-on-the-4th-wall-you-reblogged | title = The Final Frontier - I loved that essay on the 4th Wall you reblogged... archiveurl=
2) “Fandom” doesn’t exist as an actual entity, and is thus never going to actually sort its shit out. There is no UN of Fandom, there’s no Geneva Convention. There are more and less widely accepted ways of behaving, sure, and working to change those from within is absolutely something we should be doing. But trying to put our fingers in the dike until we can get fandom all shiny and clean before going public is never going to work."<ref>{{source| url = http://zjofierose.tumblr.com/post/91128084587/i-loved-that-essay-on-the-4th-wall-you-reblogged | title = The Final Frontier - I loved that essay on the 4th Wall you reblogged... archiveurl=
http://web.archive.org/web/20141224203916/http://www.peeep.us/10aa642c archivedate = 2014-12-24 }}</ref>}}
http://web.archive.org/web/20141224203916/http://www.peeep.us/10aa642c | archivedate = 2014-12-24 }}</ref>}}
{{Quotation|[penguinsparade]: "I’d go even further and argue that the fourth wall probably never existed at all in regards to fandom. If it did it at all, it was a one way window that creators simply didn’t bother or have the means of looking through. Fans have always been engaged with the texts they loved and to a lesser extent with the people who created them. Until the internet and social media really took off that was largely limited to official newsletters, writing to authors and conventions. Even back in the wee wild days of the early interwebs, when all we had were bbs and crappy geoshities pages; some authors decided they wanted to pay attention. And that attention often was pretty painful. Anne Rice threw an epic hissy fit back in the 90s over people writing fanfiction based on her work (despite publishing erotic Sleeping Beauty bondage rape fantasy porn, but apparently that was legit).
Now with the saturation (and more importantly monetization) of social media, your engagement with media means you are being watched. ....They track most of the major fandom, character, and shipping tags to check in on what people watching the show are talking about. It might not influence how they make the show, but it probably impacts marketing decisions. Because this is a business, to them.
And regardless of how cohesive a community fandom is (and I agree with ziofierose, it’s not), the idea of seclusion and self segregation seems like a pretty terrible choice. Historically speaking, groups that have chosen to seclude themselves, or self-segregate, in order to sort their own shit out have pretty much never managed to do that. That’s just not how community cohesion and identity works. When a community does that, what’s far more likely to happen is factions getting expelled from the community to maintain the ‘purity’ of the group identity."<ref>{{source| url = http://penguinsparade.tumblr.com/post/91133965473/i-loved-that-essay-on-the-4th-wall-you-reblogged | title = I loved that essay on the 4th Wall you reblogged... - Penguins on Parade |archiveurl=
http://web.archive.org/web/20141224220613/http://www.peeep.us/ed2ebd97 | archivedate = 2014-12-24 }}</ref>}}
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