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{{Quotation|True, Kirk insists on the dominant part in everything, friendship and love as well as career; this is not unprecedented, nor is it impossible for such a man to find a lasting relationship. Take the case of Alexander, which is an excellent parallel. Alexander the Great was also a dynamic leader, who settled for nothing less than the top position, yet he managed to maintain for nearly twenty years a love relationship - with Hephaistion, one of his chief generals. The parallel is so good because the similarity between Spock and Kirk is so apparent, Spock is a man content to remain in his present position, Hephaistion was also a capable, intelligent man who preferred to remain subordinate to Alexander - as long as he could be near Alexander. Yet he was not passive or "feminine" any more than Spock is. As [[Gerry Downes|Gerry]] points out, Spock is as masculine and strong as Kirk is; it is reflected in different ways, part temperamental, part cultural.<ref>Beverly C., quoted in [[The Halkan Council/Issues 20-27#Issue 22 (September 1976)|The Halkan Council 22]], September 1976.</ref>}}
{{Quotation|True, Kirk insists on the dominant part in everything, friendship and love as well as career; this is not unprecedented, nor is it impossible for such a man to find a lasting relationship. Take the case of Alexander, which is an excellent parallel. Alexander the Great was also a dynamic leader, who settled for nothing less than the top position, yet he managed to maintain for nearly twenty years a love relationship - with Hephaistion, one of his chief generals. The parallel is so good because the similarity between Spock and Kirk is so apparent, Spock is a man content to remain in his present position, Hephaistion was also a capable, intelligent man who preferred to remain subordinate to Alexander - as long as he could be near Alexander. Yet he was not passive or "feminine" any more than Spock is. As [[Gerry Downes|Gerry]] points out, Spock is as masculine and strong as Kirk is; it is reflected in different ways, part temperamental, part cultural.<ref>Beverly C., quoted in [[The Halkan Council/Issues 20-27#Issue 22 (September 1976)|The Halkan Council 22]], September 1976.</ref>}}
In 1990, a [[Robin of Sherwood]] fan attempted to explain [[slash]] to other RoS fans: {{Quotation2|Slash began when a [[Trek]] writer tried very lyrically to apply the 'Greek ideal of male love' to Kirk and Spock (in terms of Alexander and Hephaistion); and other people read a <u>lot</u> more into it. Whoosh! Slash as soft [[porn]] has invaded almost any fandom that's based on a concept with two, or more, male friends. It is, for me, just totally unbelievable, in terms of the various characters it's applied to; and... quite dull.
: Just what do you think Alex and Hephaistion were doing in that tent on a cool evening? <u>I'd</u> certainly read a lot into a story comparing Kirk and Spock to Alexander and Hephaiston, or Achilles and Patroclos, or any other fandom pair I don't feel like thinking about right now... The Greek ideal of male love wasn't, well, exactly platonic. <ref> from [[Herne's Stepchildren]] #5 </ref>}}
====Some Star Trek Fanwork Examples====
====Some Star Trek Fanwork Examples====
* "Possession" in [[The Book of Smutty Days]] (2006)
* "Possession" in [[The Book of Smutty Days]] (2006)