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Webpage template?

There's a template for Archives, and another for Communities, but it might be useful to have a template specifically for webpages/homepages. There's sites like The Real Ghostbusters Fanpage that collect fic but include other features (episode reviews and such), and sites like character shrines, both of which have aspects of archives and communities, but are mostly the work of a particular fan or group of fans. Maybe such should be considered Fanworks? --Xparrot 19:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I think the general 'site' template might apply, and it should show up in the [[Category:Websites]] listing for both fan activities and fan communities. --rache 19:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Ahh, that's what I was looking for! I totally missed it, I was looking for a "Website" or a "Homepage" template. Oops! Thank you... --Xparrot 19:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Having changed to Site - on the template, in addition to dates= and such, might it not be useful to have a "Site Owner" listing? Since the owners of major sites are sometimes significant fannish types...
ETA: Also, the Site Template apparently doesn't automatically add any categories at all? --Xparrot 19:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Huh, right, the code needs an additional [[Category:Websites]] line after the table code. Could any sysop amend that? I'm...not entirely sure if site owner applies in more than 50% of the cases -- i.e., it's not clear who it is, or they change too fast, or it can't be found out...? But, hm, it's usually different for fannish pages, where the maintainer is usually known. *is unsure* Oh, yeah, what about maintainer instead of site owner? --lian 12:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't know anything about wiki coding - is it possible to have optional fields in tables? Fields that don't show if they're empty? Because some sites, yes, it's hard to say who's maintaining them, and it might be a big group, but other sites ("homepages", pretty much) are often the work of a single person. If the "site owner" or "site maintainer" field only showed on the page when it was filled, that would probably be the most convenient? --Xparrot 16:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I think I added the categories to the template. Let me know if there's a problem with it, as it now applies to every article using the site template. I didn't add an owner/maintainer slot, as I wasn't sure of the impact to already existing site template usage, but once there's consensus on what to add, it should be an easy mod--and then we can see if it breaks any existing ones, and roll it back if it does. --rache 14:57, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
IIRC from another template that was expanded with more fields in the infobox (the pairing template, I think) the effects were somewhat unfortunate on existing pages in that the extra fields showed up as empty on the displayed site, because the template formats them, but they didn't show in the code to edit, because the template was c&p'ed before it had those fields. So you had to manually c&p (parts of) the template anew. Unless you know that the template changed since the site was created that is very confusing, because you see things displayed that you don't see in the code.--Ratcreature 17:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Usenet Template has no categories?

Template:UsenetProfile doesn't appear to add any categories automatically (see rec.arts.anime.misc) - it should add the Communities category, shouldn't it? (And possibly a Usenet/Newsgroup category?) --Xparrot 13:37, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Hm. Looking at the Usenet template and the Community template, they're nearly identical (except the community one includes a Founder line). Do we actually need a separate Usenet one? And if we do need one (e.g., to add a Usenet category), should we split the Community profile into distinct ones for Messageboard, Mailing List, Journal, Forum, etc., to auto-include subcats for them as well? --Arduinna 15:55, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Recorded this as Bug #49. Hope it'll be picked up there. --lian 10:53, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

All set! See Category:Newsgroups.--æthel 03:44, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

-SOLVED- award templates?

The templates currently used for fan awards are an ill fit. Most award pages seem to use the Community Profile template, which has no easy way to indicate whether the award is given out by voting or by some jury type of setup for example. Or what type of fanwork is eligible (zines, fanfic, fanart, filks, vids, etc). Also "moderator" is somewhat odd, though I guess mostly the recent organizers are filled in. Some as the Golden Orgasms use the Fanwork template, which fits even worse. Others don't use a nifty info box at all. I realize that maybe there can't be templates for everything, but awards are a fairly common fanactivity, so having a template for them that fit better would be cool.--Ratcreature 18:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I've done a rough version at Template:AwardsProfile, if you want to check it out. This was straight off the top of my head, so I'm sure I'm missing things. --Arduinna 06:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

SOLVED by creation of Category:Awards. --lian 10:47, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

More Templates

So far there are no good templates for timelines and histories. For vids there is only the general fanwork template. Maybe something with a space for length and song would be good? --Doro 20:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

A vid template would be fairly easy to adapt from the fanwork template. I can create it later unless someone else wants to take a stab at it now. Timeline/history templates also sound good--what information do you want to have in them?--æthel 21:24, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
We actually have the EasyTimeline extension installed! It hasn't been documented well, so I'll fix that up right away. --awils1 05:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
I thought Doro was asking for an infobox template for pages like Timeline of Star Trek Fandom? But how the timeline in Timeline of Slashed Sources was made was pretty mysterious to me as well. --æthel 06:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes, that. :) Or something like History of Scanlation and other pages that are about something in history. ---Doro 09:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Well, we could do both :). The timeline in Timeline of Slashed Sources is using the EasyTimeline extension, and has been set up as a template to be called on demand. I'm trying to set up one to be available as a generalisation of a timeline, while people can still create their own from scratch and make them templates for everybody to use. awils1 06:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Where are the page templates?

I can't find Glossary or Fandom or any of the other templates I'm used to. The templates linked from the side bar shortcuts section comes here, so I'm really confused. Help? --msilverstar 05:00ish, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

They're all in the subcategory "Infoboxes". The template category structure has been cleaned up to comply with the no-breadcrumb policy (and because the number of infobox templates is increasing rapidly), so templates in the subcategories no longer appear in the main category. There's a shortcut to get to them: type "infobox" into the search box and hit Enter/Return. Or just click on the subcategory from the Fanlore Templates category page.--æthel 05:20, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Ah, thank you, I think I clicked all the other links. Would it be OK for me to add a little clarifying text? --msilverstar 06:01, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
I added another sentence, but feel free to add more if it's not enough.--æthel 14:53, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Added another explanatory sentence and links to what I think are the two most popular templates (Glossary and FandomByText). --msilverstar 17:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
PPOV and Stub templates? Have they been moved again?--MeeDee 15:46, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Nope. They're still under Category:Notices.--æþel 23:46, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Is there any way to make a ref template?

To make it easier for editors to follow the Help:Citing_sources#Online_Sources guidelines and at Fanlore:Citation, is there any way to code up a template for editors to copy-paste that would make adding refs with fewer coding errors (I've made plenty of them myself to understand any editor's frustration) just a little bit easier? (If I knew how to make code do things I would try, but must depend on kindness -- also opinion of feasability/lunacy of attempt/notion -- of others.)

e.g. where what the "<ref>" template, if you pasted it in, would give you, is something like:
"<ref>[(PASTE IN YOUR LINK HERE) WRITETEXTFORYOURLINKHERE], by (SOURCE OF REF/PERSON OR COMMUNITY OR OTHER INFO HERE PLEASE), (DATE YOUR REF/LINK/CITED SOURCE WAS POSTED OR "Date unknown" HERE PLEASE), (Accessed AUTOGENERATED TODAY'S DATE/MO/YEAR ACCORDING TO FANLORE SERVER TIME).</ref>"

(Maybe the first instance used on a page also autogenerates the ==References== section header and <references />section content, or maybe the importance of manually copypasting/adding that section/content is just boldly highlighted at the top of the template page?) ETA, oops, forgot to sign. Belatedly: --Sk 02:00, 8 February 2012

The citation help page was so unhelpful I had to split it up so I could grasp how to fix it and add some copy/paste material as you recommend. The problem is that we haven't reached any consensus on a standard way to format citations (that I know of), so while I can give examples/templates, it will reflect my own preferences. If people are interested in standardizing this stuff, please join me at Help:Formatting Guidelines for Citations.
I also added some wiki code to the Help:Footnotes page for ease of copy/pasting.--æþel 00:13, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, it turns out that my memory of how to do this is correct, but it's nice to have verification.--msilverstar (talk) 19:14, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
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