Joss Whedon

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Name: Joss Whedon
Also Known As: Joss, Whedon
Occupation: Films: Writer, director. Television: executive producer, creator, showrunner, writer, director, cameo actor, diva. Comics: Writer
Medium: Film, television, comics
Works: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Firefly/Serenity, Astonishing X-Men, Runaways, Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along Blog, Dollhouse, The Avengers Movieverse (MCU), Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Much Ado About Nothing,
Official Website(s): Occasionally blogs at Whedonesque
Fan Website(s):
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Creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, and Firefly/Serenity (known in various combinations as the Buffyverse or Jossverse.) Has an unusually friendly relationship with fandom and is one of a handful of creators who has more or less his own fandom, not just fans of individual shows, as demonstrated by the instant success of his made-for-the-internet film, Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog and the number of fans who followed him into comics fandom when he began writing Astonishing X-Men. He also gained favored with his directing of The Avengers film, leading him direct involvement with its sequel as well as the TV spin-off series, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D..


Many phrases from Whedon's shows have become common in some fannish circles, such as I'll be in my bunk or referring to a specific canon as a "Verse"; also, the phenomenon of having one's fannish theories or fanon invalidated by new canon has become known as "being Jossed."

The first Writercon, in 2004, was explicitly focused on the works of Joss Whedon.

Similarities in style, themes across all works

Notable interactions with fans

Opinion(s) on record about fandom, fanfic, etc.

Whedon is on record as being pro-fanfiction and other creative works; in one interview, he said "That's why I made these shows. I didn't make them so that people would enjoy them and forget them; I made them so they would never be able to shake them. It’s the way I am as a fan. I create the shows that would make me do that."[1]

In another interview he answered the question: Do you share William Shatner's opinion of the most ardent fans that they need to get a life? Whedon's reply: "I have never had any particular life of my own, so I don't see any particular reason why anyone should run out to get one. Of course, if they're dressing up like Willow and staying in their basement for nine months at a time, that's not good. But the show's designed to foster slavish devotion; it has it from me, and I entirely respect it in others." [2]

Criticisms of


Whedon gained a reputation as a feminist during his years doing Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Not only was the show centered around a kickass heroine, but she also had a variety of female friends and foes. Meanwhile, many academics have analyzed Buffy from a feminist perspective, covering the show's treatment of gender roles, female empowerment, and other potentially feminist aspects.[3] However, both academics and fans have pointed out that Buffy fails at intersectionality, its emphasis being white middle class feminism.[4] Some fans have increasingly begun to question Whedon's feminism; Dollhouse was the breaking point for several of Whedon's supporters.

"Also, for all that he likes talking about writing girls, lately, he's not even pretending to give a preference to them. Can fandom please stop talking about how awesomely feminist and how supremely women-positive and women-focused he is now?" [5]
People who are not long-time fans of Whedon criticize his other work like Buffy and Firefly too, often finding the female characters more failed attempts at kickass heroines than actual kickass heroines. Daniel Hemmens, writing for FerretBrain comments:
Basically, Joss Whedon's portrayal of women tallies almost perfectly with the phenomenon known generally on the internet as Nice Guy Syndrome.

Just to clarify, the term “Nice Guy Syndrome” has two essentially contrary meanings (check out the Urban Dictionary Entry. Its first use is the perceived phenomenon whereby women date “jerks” because they're stupid/insecure/oppressed by the patriarchy/have Stockholm Syndrome when they should really be dating “nice guys” like – well – whichever guy is using the phrase. The second meaning of the phrase is the phenomenon of creepy, insecure guys who can't get a date because of the messed up way they treat women (usually by pretending they want to be “friends” with women they actually want to sleep with) who ascribe their lack of sexual conquests to their being “too nice”.[6]

He has most recently been criticized for his treatment of Natasha Romanov in The Avengers Movieverse; for example, Loki refers to Natasha as a "mewling quim", which is an antiquated term for "cunt"; Whedon said in an interview that this line was his "greatest achievement".[7] The backlash regarding Age of Ultron eventually caused him to delete his Twitter.[8]

They took away Natasha. She wasn’t a person anymore. She was a rubber stamp, a label marked LOVER, or maybe GIRL WAITING FOR GENTLE SAVIOR WHO IS THE ONE AND ONLY MAN WHO KNOWS THE REAL HER. She wasn’t a person anymore. She was a plot filler.

Marvel meant so much to me. All the time their characters taught me new things: how to be brave, how to hang in there, how to be a better person. And I can’t help but think that what they just taught me was, “It doesn’t matter who I am, one day I will be just WIFE or MOTHER or something else, and that’s it for me.” And it’s not just because I’m a woman, but because this was my HERO, and they reduced her to so little. But she’s not supposed to be that way.[9]

Instead of wading into the “red ledger” of a complicated person who did seriously heinous acts and is trying desperately to buy redemption with good deeds, we get the character who feels ruined by her barren womb. And even worse, the movie tries to fix it by infantilizing another character into her big baby. [10]

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  1. Television's afterlife, 22 May 2004
  2. from an interview (pre-2001) in "Science Fiction Weekly"
  3. For examples, see the online Slayage journal, some essays in Fighting the Forces (ed. Wilcox and Lavery), and Reading the Vampire Slayer (ed. Roz Kaveney).
  4. simplytoska, February 2014 Tumblr post
  5. Most Developed Character on Buffy: On Joss Whedon's Wisdom (Accessed Sept. 7, 2010)
  6. I, Whedon on FerretBrain. Posted February 23, 2009. (Accessed September 23, 2010.)
  8., Joss Whedon Didn’t Leave Twitter Because Feminism, But He Sure Has a Lot to Say About It, May 6, 2015
  9. realityjustisntenough, Why I feel betrayed by Marvel, April 30, 2015
  10., Black Widow: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things, 5 May 2015
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