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That’s a fucking bullshit rule, I’m sorry. They shouldn’t deny you the opportunity to advertise your own work.<ref>comment by sinningsleepingandshitposting at [https://leafquake23.tumblr.com/post/162352836906/psa-dont-mention-commissionspatreon-on-ao3 psa: don’t mention commissions/patreon on AO3]; [http://archive.is/SE3BJ archive link] (2016)</ref>}}

That’s a fucking bullshit rule, I’m sorry. They shouldn’t deny you the opportunity to advertise your own work.<ref>comment by sinningsleepingandshitposting at {{source|url = https://leafquake23.tumblr.com/post/162352836906/psa-dont-mention-commissionspatreon-on-ao3 |title = psa: don’t mention commissions/patreon on AO3 |archiveurl= http://archive.is/SE3BJ }} (2016)</ref>}}

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this isn’t just a self-determined descriptor; that’s a legal definition that requires adherence to specific rules and laws regarding income, profit, and donations.

this isn’t just a self-determined descriptor; that’s a legal definition that requires adherence to specific rules and laws regarding income, profit, and donations.

this isn’t a “bullshit rule” just meant to prevent creators from advertising. in op’s post, the contact from [[ao3]] offers a roundabout way to advertise. this rule ensures that ao3 and the organization for transformative works to stay a non-profit organization - this “bullshit rule” is essentially a way so that ao3 and the other services that the organization for transformative works can stay online.<ref>comment by softpunkbucky at [https://leafquake23.tumblr.com/post/162352836906/psa-dont-mention-commissionspatreon-on-ao3 psa: don’t mention commissions/patreon on AO3]; [http://archive.is/SE3BJ archive link] (2016)</ref>}}

this isn’t a “bullshit rule” just meant to prevent creators from advertising. in op’s post, the contact from [[ao3]] offers a roundabout way to advertise. this rule ensures that ao3 and the organization for transformative works to stay a non-profit organization - this “bullshit rule” is essentially a way so that ao3 and the other services that the organization for transformative works can stay online.<ref>comment by softpunkbucky at {{source|url = https://leafquake23.tumblr.com/post/162352836906/psa-dont-mention-commissionspatreon-on-ao3 |title = psa: don’t mention commissions/patreon on AO3 |archiveurl= http://archive.is/SE3BJ }} (2016)</ref>}}

{{Quotation2|it’s not ''just'' about maintaining nonprofit status. (i question if that’s even applicable here, since the profits in question don’t go to the organisation, but i know very little about nonprofit law. just a gut feeling.)

{{Quotation2|it’s not ''just'' about maintaining nonprofit status. (i question if that’s even applicable here, since the profits in question don’t go to the organisation, but i know very little about nonprofit law. just a gut feeling.)

here’s why.

here’s why.

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Your commissions to draw popular characters? Direct violation of Copyright. AO3 works hard to maintain fandom expression protected. You hurt their cause by not adhering to their term of use.

Your commissions to draw popular characters? Direct violation of Copyright. AO3 works hard to maintain fandom expression protected. You hurt their cause by not adhering to their term of use.

They’re there so you won’t get sued.<ref>comment by jeremy rennerd at [https://leafquake23.tumblr.com/post/162352836906/psa-dont-mention-commissionspatreon-on-ao3 psa: don’t mention commissions/patreon on AO3]; [http://archive.is/SE3BJ archive link] (2016)</ref>}}

They’re there so you won’t get sued.<ref>comment by jeremy rennerd at {{source|url = https://leafquake23.tumblr.com/post/162352836906/psa-dont-mention-commissionspatreon-on-ao3 |title = psa: don’t mention commissions/patreon on AO3 |archiveurl= http://archive.is/SE3BJ }} (2016)</ref>}}

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The [[OTW]] has done so much in getting non-profit [[transformative works]] to be legalized, especially getting copyright exceptions for [[vidding]]. Let’s not screw this up now, guys.<ref>comment by sophia helix at [https://leafquake23.tumblr.com/post/162352836906/psa-dont-mention-commissionspatreon-on-ao3 psa: don’t mention commissions/patreon on AO3]; [http://archive.is/SE3BJ archive link] (2016)</ref>}}

The [[OTW]] has done so much in getting non-profit [[transformative works]] to be legalized, especially getting copyright exceptions for [[vidding]]. Let’s not screw this up now, guys.<ref>comment by sophia helix at {{source|url = https://leafquake23.tumblr.com/post/162352836906/psa-dont-mention-commissionspatreon-on-ao3 |title = psa: don’t mention commissions/patreon on AO3 |archiveurl= http://archive.is/SE3BJ }} (2016)</ref>}}

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The discussion of copyright could be refined a little here…but let’s be blunt, to some extent, it doesn’t matter. Regardless of the law, [[AO3]] was established with a deliberately noncommercial ethos–in fact, in ''specific response'' to contemporary attempts to commercialize fandom. The rule exists in service of that ethos. Don’t like that “bullshit?”  Well, then, I guess you should just go read and publish fic on that other free platform that doesn’t exist to turn you and your personal data into a product to sell off to capitalism’s highest bidders. What’s that? You say that doesn’t exist?  ''Hmmmm, I wonder if that’s a coincidence.''  <ref>comment by harriet spy at [https://leafquake23.tumblr.com/post/162352836906/psa-dont-mention-commissionspatreon-on-ao3 psa: don’t mention commissions/patreon on AO3]; [http://archive.is/SE3BJ archive link] (2016)</ref>}}

The discussion of copyright could be refined a little here…but let’s be blunt, to some extent, it doesn’t matter. Regardless of the law, [[AO3]] was established with a deliberately noncommercial ethos–in fact, in ''specific response'' to contemporary attempts to commercialize fandom. The rule exists in service of that ethos. Don’t like that “bullshit?”  Well, then, I guess you should just go read and publish fic on that other free platform that doesn’t exist to turn you and your personal data into a product to sell off to capitalism’s highest bidders. What’s that? You say that doesn’t exist?  ''Hmmmm, I wonder if that’s a coincidence.''  <ref>comment by harriet spy at {{source|url = https://leafquake23.tumblr.com/post/162352836906/psa-dont-mention-commissionspatreon-on-ao3 |title = psa: don’t mention commissions/patreon on AO3 |archiveurl= http://archive.is/SE3BJ }} (2016)</ref>}}

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I am old and have an instant [[squick]] reaction to the current trend for profiting off of fan fiction because I saw how many sites came down and how many [[C&Ds]] I saw happen to friends. Not only that… I can just imagine some politician noticing people soliciting $$ for art or fanfic and going, how can I tax that and how can I get back taxes for all the previous?  <ref>comment by leafquake23  at [https://leafquake23.tumblr.com/post/162352836906/psa-dont-mention-commissionspatreon-on-ao3 psa: don’t mention commissions/patreon on AO3]; [http://archive.is/SE3BJ archive link] (2016)</ref>}}

I am old and have an instant [[squick]] reaction to the current trend for profiting off of fan fiction because I saw how many sites came down and how many [[C&Ds]] I saw happen to friends. Not only that… I can just imagine some politician noticing people soliciting $$ for art or fanfic and going, how can I tax that and how can I get back taxes for all the previous?  <ref>comment by leafquake23  at {{source|url = https://leafquake23.tumblr.com/post/162352836906/psa-dont-mention-commissionspatreon-on-ao3 |title = psa: don’t mention commissions/patreon on AO3 |archiveurl= http://archive.is/SE3BJ }} (2016)</ref>}}

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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20180918181422/http://snakeslide.tumblr.com/post/178020070888/a-quick-simple-guide-to-finding-old-fic-off A “quick” & “simple” guide to finding old fic off of AO3] (2018)

* [https://web.archive.org/web/20180918181422/http://snakeslide.tumblr.com/post/178020070888/a-quick-simple-guide-to-finding-old-fic-off A “quick” & “simple” guide to finding old fic off of AO3] (2018)

===2019===

===2019===

*  [https://anneapocalypse.tumblr.com/post/182408585411/phoenix-ace-myminorityfeelsminor If you don’t support AO3′s policies, then don’t post your fic there.]; [https://archive.is/TUone archive link] (January 2019)

*  {{source|url = https://anneapocalypse.tumblr.com/post/182408585411/phoenix-ace-myminorityfeelsminor |title = If you don’t support AO3′s policies, then don’t post your fic there. |archiveurl= https://archive.is/TUone }} (January 2019)

===2020===

===2020===

===2021===

===2021===

* [[What’s going on with all the “if you donate to AO3 you’re evil” posting on Tumblr?]]  (April 15, 2021)

* [[What’s going on with all the “if you donate to AO3 you’re evil” posting on Tumblr?]]  (April 15, 2021)

* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FanFiction/comments/mrllzd/id_rather_give_up_my_15_than_suffer_with_ads_and/ I'd rather give up my $15 than suffer with ads and extreme censorship]; [https://archive.is/wip/KKVJb archive link] (April 16, 2021)

* {{source|url = https://www.reddit.com/r/FanFiction/comments/mrllzd/id_rather_give_up_my_15_than_suffer_with_ads_and/ |title = I'd rather give up my $15 than suffer with ads and extreme censorship |archiveurl= https://archive.is/wip/KKVJb }} (April 16, 2021)

*"aooo...was never meant to be the only fanfic posting site. It was meant to be an alternative to sites which censored content you were allowed to post" (October 20, 2021) <ref>{{source| url = https://twitter.com/enkalenk/status/1451157993832189952?s=09 | title = | archiveurl =https://web.archive.org/web/20211022060849/https://twitter.com/enkalenk/status/1451157993832189952?s=09| archivedate =2021-10-22}}</ref>

*"aooo...was never meant to be the only fanfic posting site. It was meant to be an alternative to sites which censored content you were allowed to post" (October 20, 2021) <ref>{{source| url = https://twitter.com/enkalenk/status/1451157993832189952?s=09 | title = | archiveurl =https://web.archive.org/web/20211022060849/https://twitter.com/enkalenk/status/1451157993832189952?s=09| archivedate =2021-10-22}}</ref>