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A conversation about content, policies, and history:

A conversation about content, policies, and history:

In 2016, a fan commented: "i didn't realise ao3 was started in response to [[lj]] deleting account relating to p//edophi|ia and they explicitly support the posting of such works yikes" <ref> [http://joestrummin.tumblr.com/post/148786246509 post at joestrummin.tumblr], since deleted] </ref>

In 2016, a fan commented:  

 

See [[i didn't realise ao3 was started in response to lj deleting account relating to p//edophi|ia and they explicitly support the posting of such works yikes]] for of this discussion.  

This post was deleted, and then reposted after it had gotten a long response. The original poster then wrote a much longer post with this excerpt: "The post was me starting to think about whether I want to post my own work on a website which also allows pedophiles to be present on it. That could lead to me being associated with them, or some way indirectly supporting such a community (by supporting the archive). Some moderator said, ‘If you want to kick certain kinds of content off of AO3, you do not belong on AO3 in the first place,’ so this was me thinking ''maybe I do not belong on AO3''. And maybe I think other people should consider this also. But really I lack the personal investment or moral integrity to stop posting there, because I like getting weekly [[kudos]] emails." <ref> see the full exchange here: [http://joestrummin.tumblr.com/post/148894949419 joestrummin.tumblr]; [https://web.archive.org/web/20161110053738/https://joestrummin.tumblr.com/post/148894949419 archive link]. </ref>

This post was deleted, and then reposted after it had gotten a long response. The original poster then wrote a much longer post with this excerpt: "The post was me starting to think about whether I want to post my own work on a website which also allows pedophiles to be present on it. That could lead to me being associated with them, or some way indirectly supporting such a community (by supporting the archive). Some moderator said, ‘If you want to kick certain kinds of content off of AO3, you do not belong on AO3 in the first place,’ so this was me thinking ''maybe I do not belong on AO3''. And maybe I think other people should consider this also. But really I lack the personal investment or moral integrity to stop posting there, because I like getting weekly [[kudos]] emails." <ref> see the full exchange here: [http://joestrummin.tumblr.com/post/148894949419 joestrummin.tumblr]; [https://web.archive.org/web/20161110053738/https://joestrummin.tumblr.com/post/148894949419 archive link]. </ref>

LONG STORY SHORT, even though pedophilia is reprehensible and I personally cannot stomach fanfic that involves that kind of content, AO3 was founded specially as a [[Fandom as a Safe Space|safe space for fandom communities]] that could not find homes elsewhere. it requires [[warnings]] precisely for that reason, and if you find a story that is not properly warned, you can alert the admins and get the story labeled appropriately.

LONG STORY SHORT, even though pedophilia is reprehensible and I personally cannot stomach fanfic that involves that kind of content, AO3 was founded specially as a [[Fandom as a Safe Space|safe space for fandom communities]] that could not find homes elsewhere. it requires [[warnings]] precisely for that reason, and if you find a story that is not properly warned, you can alert the admins and get the story labeled appropriately.

IDK, maybe it’s just because I am, again, ancient, but I was in and around fandom before homosexuality was legal in all 50 states. so were most of the people who started AO3. for most of my formative life, being gay was associated with pedophilia, and so was writing about gay characters. just - it’s a lot more complicated than you might expect, and there’s a reason many older fans who have been involved in several generations of fandom were so grateful to have AO3 as an option. <Ref> [http://tomato-greens.tumblr.com/post/148787203881/joestrummin-i-didnt-realise-ao3-was-started-in tomato-greens.tumblr], August 11, 2016 </ref>}}

IDK, maybe it’s just because I am, again, ancient, but I was in and around fandom before homosexuality was legal in all 50 states. so were most of the people who started AO3. for most of my formative life, being gay was associated with pedophilia, and so was writing about gay characters. just - it’s a lot more complicated than you might expect, and there’s a reason many older fans who have been involved in several generations of fandom were so grateful to have AO3 as an option. <Ref> {{source| url = http://tomato-greens.tumblr.com/post/148787203881/joestrummin-i-didnt-realise-ao3-was-started-in | title = high concept / low skill | joestrummin: i didnt realise ao3 was started in... |archiveurl= https://web.archive.org/web/20161117073742/http://tomato-greens.tumblr.com:80/post/148787203881/joestrummin-i-didnt-realise-ao3-was-started-in |archivedate= 2016-11-17 }}, August 11, 2016 </ref>}}

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