When should we start offering feedback/input on the image templates? I didn't want to jump the gun - I know there needs to be testing and formatting and fiddling.--Morgandawn 05:12, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- We've just posted our new Image Policy FAQ (both here on the wiki and to the fanlore dreamwidth comm) and we welcome feedback/input on the templates and on the FAQ, either here on talk pages or on the fanlore dw comm, whichever you prefer. Thank you! Rbarenblat 13:28, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
The wording of this template is different than the other two: "Is" and "Marked As" mean two different things (one is presented as fact and the other is an opinion). And the "User Safety" is not only getting into a troublesome arena, but is unnecessary. Is there any reason why it can't read is "This image has been marked as a sexually explicit image and should be minimized" to match the other two? --Mrs. Potato Head 14:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Whoops! We actually meant to edit out that "user safety" text (it was present in an early draft and was not supposed to be in the final version) before this went live. We're going to edit the text in exactly the way you suggest -- which is what we meant to do all along -- asap. Rbarenblat 14:43, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank goodness. You know, I actually laid awake in my bed last night worrying about this phrasing... well, this and some other things these new templates will stir up. --Mrs. Potato Head 14:54, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Aw, thank you for worrying on our behalf! :-) We'll fix this template asap, and in a bigger-picture sense, we hope that the templates and the faq will make life easier for everyone in the long run. And for now, we're getting useful feedback, which is awesome! Rbarenblat 16:52, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Suggestions for reducing text to avoid overwhelming images on pages
Can we reword the wording on the template to make it shorter. In galleries it is overwhelming the images, creating gaps in the layout and, somewhat to my amusement, calling even more attention to the naughty bits.
- Ex: http://fanlore.org/wiki/Gayle_F#Gallery
- Ex: http://fanlore.org/wiki/Suzan_Lovett#Gallery
- Ex: http://fanlore.org/wiki/Thrust#Contents (Pat Stall's image vs text)
If you add two templates together the layout (and the images) become very offcenter
- Ex: http://fanlore.org/wiki/Out_of_Bounds#Out_of_Bounds_Again
- Ex: http://fanlore.org/wiki/Hanky_Panky
For example: Note: This image has been marked as sexually explicit and has been minimised.
Could be: Note: Sexually explicit image, minimised.
Or: Note: Minimalized sexually explicit image.
The consent one is a bit trickier:
Note: This image has been marked as depicting acts involving sexual assault and/or consent issues (either non- or dubious consent) and has been minimised.
Could be: Note: Acts of sexual assault and/or consent issues (either non- or dubious consent), image minimised.
Or: Note: Acts of sexual assault and/or consent issues, image minimised.
Labels should contain enough info to give.... well info, not to outline the policy. If, for example, there is worry over what readers might consider to be consent, you hyperlink on the words "consent issues" to a page explaining all that it encompasses.
I am certain others can come up with even better, shorter and pithier descriptions that give adequate notice without running on and taking up more space that the original full size image.--Morgandawn 17:05, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Taking to the Fanlore staff for discussion! I happen to agree with you, but we shall see :) --awils1 03:02, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. If the Image Committee is thinking of clarifying the noncon wording to sexual assault/rape the wording could read:
- Note: Contains imagery of sexual assault/rape.
- Or: Note: May contain imagery of sexual assault/rape.
- I've added examples below. Hope this helps. --Morgandawn 17:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC)