Talk:Misogyny in Fandom - Fanlore

Talk:Misogyny in Fandom

Could we do here the same thing we did with the "antisemitism in fandom" page and turn it into a positive instead? Maybe "gender in fandom"?--Doro 20:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

If we change Racism in Fandom to Race in fandom...--Sherrold 21:06, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I like that idea.--Doro 21:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Looks like it's already Race And Fandom, fwiw. There's no page just on racism that I can find. --Arduinna 00:01, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

pairing names

Isn't first the male then the female name (whether first or last names) far more common? I mean, I get 9,920 google hits for "Sheppard/Teyla" only 2,520 for Teyla/Sheppard and 8,890 for John/Teyla vs 3,140 Teyla/John, 303 for Emmagan/Sheppard, 352 for Sheppard/Emmagan, and 650 for Emmagan/John (usually hits where both are actually their full names) and the only hits for John/Emmagan are for Torren. Similarly it's 8,310 for Sheppard/Weir vs 3,190 for Weir/Sheppard...--Ratcreature 21:59, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't clear -- it's that "Teyla" is her first name, and "Sheppard" is his last name. If it were Teyla/John, or Sheppard/Emmagen it would be fine -- it's not the order, it's which name is chosen. You never see Rodney/Sheppard (or Sheppard/Rodney) -- you either see Rodney/John or Sheppard/McKay. --Sherrold 01:29, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, this is very noticeable with Ronon, too. I almost always see him listed by his first name, even when the other half of the pairing (usually Rodney or John) is listed by last name. --Kyuuketsukirui 08:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Ha, I see Ronon was mentioned in the main page. --Kyuuketsukirui 08:33, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
I understood that it was about the first/last name thing, but I think naming order is also notable. And not just because in some fandom nomenclature it has implications for who is the dominant partner, but more general about giving importance. I mean, e.g. it is almost alway Mulder/Scully, rarely Scully/Mulder.--Ratcreature 09:12, 4 December 2008 (UTC)